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[InSearchofJimsSecret]

I have been highly disappointed with the numerous new age type fluff books on the market today about Egyptian Magick. Is there anyone out there that can recommend to me a REAL book about Egyptian Magick? I am in search of THE book. So please let me know if anyone has any recommendations.

Autumn

[nytek]

Originally Posted by InSearchofJimsSecret

I have been highly disappointed with the numerous new age type fluff books on the market today about Egyptian Magick. Is there anyone out there that can recommend to me a REAL book about Egyptian Magick? I am in search of THE book. So please let me know if anyone has any recommendations.

Autumn

Hi. Before I say anything in direct response, a person might say that since I've been a little nytek, that the whole ancient Egypt thing has rang out with me deep inside as well, only if you can say the same for yourself that is ... but still I wonder something about your post. Are you looking for material on the ancient Egyptian religion? What facet of Egyptian magick did you have in mind? I mean, there's their alchemy, or the Setian stuff I've read over which sounds very messy such as cutting off the head of a Donkey and blaming someone else after calling on Seth. I think that last one came from one of the old scrolls. There's a bunch of stuff to wade through. Now ... what specifically are you feeling drawn towards as you rethink your original post into new words for me?

Otherwise, as you read my reply, if you find that you're just looking to reach the Egyptian Gods in general to work with them then you can decide to PM me whenever you get this and I'll see if I can't get you situated doing something that you might see yourself being pleased with. I can't guarantee anything but what's worked for me in that case, but I'm more than happy to try with you. If this is what you didn't yet realize you actually had in mind then that should be quite easy to accomplish actually.

Nytek

[Adeodatus]

The main problem, as I understand it, is that no one except the ancient Egyptians completely understood Egyptian magick. Even the Greek Hermeticists seemed to use a lot of guesswork when incorporating Egyptian ideas into their Greek ideology.

Also Egyptian magick seems to have mainly focused on the afterlife and less on getting things in this lifetime (which makes sense since Pharoahs already had everything in this life.)

That said, I'm curious to see what valid info pops up in this thread.

[nytek]

The main problem, as I understand it, is that no one except the ancient Egyptians completely understood Egyptian magick. Even the Greek Hermeticists seemed to use a lot of guesswork when incorporating Egyptian ideas into their Greek ideology.

The same secrecy that perhaps allowed the ancient ones to have working lightbulbs, to carve rock harder than diamond in the bronze age with uncanny skill, to make impossibly hollowed stoneware, all the alchemically prepared perfumes, and nevertheless, to build structures we can't even conclusively date to any particular period, was the cause of their own downfall... people so obviously enlightened should have seen the gradual descent coming underneath the booming prosperity they'd invoked. Knowledge is power though, or so people have said, and so that knowledge was lost in an attempt to preserve such a power-base.

Still some of the old texts that've been uncovered since have fragments of rituals that can be grokked and melded, like the Nidstang-esq cursing ritual of Set I mentioned earlier. It's a start. You know?

Also Egyptian magick seems to have mainly focused on the afterlife and less on getting things in this lifetime (which makes sense since Pharoahs already had everything in this life.)

Well for the larger sense of things, yeah, but then again magick was a part of daily life as well even for the poorest folk as far as I remember uncovering from my own short lived studies. There are countless talismans and cursing implements riddled with nails and the likes to speak of and more. The priests of Sekhmet also allegedly had a form of energetic healing not quite too different than that of Japanese reiki, which is yet another take on the alleged powers of your Jesus, et al; all the figures that've dotted the pages of mythology who have been initiated with the Godly powers of preservation (as opposed to those God-powers of creation and destruction). The salt, mercury, and sulphur, respectively, of reflected human-divinity, only if you will.

That said, I'm curious to see what valid info pops up in this thread.

Likewise though, in all truthfulness it's just much easier to contact the Gods themselves in my opinion. I kinda also see this subject as I do Eastern philosophy--that a Westerner will never truly grasp the full Eastern view no matter how dedicated he or she may be merely for the fact that such a person isn't grounded or steeped in that culture. If you think about it, then how can one "become" an ancient Egyptian?

One can typically at best hope to merely practice translations of retranslations of what we assume is the ancient magick and that would all be done from within a modern Western mindset, again, in my opinion. I dunno where you'd personally find yourself wanting to register with all or any of that, but I'm curious to know as always what everyone else here thinks just like you.

[nytek]

Something interesting to add in and to note in terms of the Pharaonic Magick you mentioned is that these Pharaohs seemed to be the first or the original LHP guys as far as I can tell. I'm no scholar or anything, but it seems accurate enough from a certain stance or position you might take.

[ceewayne]

Originally Posted by nytek

Likewise though, in all truthfulness it's just much easier to contact the Gods themselves in my opinion.

If I may say, I really like that line.

[nytek]

Personally what intimidated me the most about this particular path was the Coptic element of it all... ouch. It was a real monkey-wrench in the gears of my Egyptian LBRP back when if you can't not just imagine that sort of thing naturally happening due to a lack of resources.