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Old 10-04-2007, 02:37 AM   #1
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This is a reply to the question from another thread:

"If someone has some time can they explain more on sex magic. im not new to high magick but I'm wondering how you can use sex to fuel an evocation."


The basics of sex magick with regards to practical results are really pretty simple.

As in most magick the trick is to get a proper *intent* embedded into the deepest stratus of the subconscious where it can manifest unimpeded by the conscious day-to-day mind.

In sex magick this is primarily carried out through a "gnosis" that occurs at orgasm. In other words, when you usually yell, "oh god, oh god!" is traditionally a good time to implant a sigil or to summon a demon.

Solo sex magick of this sort is over-hyped on the internet however and does not work as well as sometimes purported. If it did, every 15 year old with a passing knowledge of "Chaos Magick" would be driving around in a Lamborghini with a blond, a brunette and a redhead inside. This is not to say the method is completely without merit, but rather to point out that it is commonly misused and improperly applied. It's best used when combined with other methods.

There are other methods of sex magick too, such as exhausting a "seer" through sexual encounters extended for hours and days on end until they are in the vision realm, but kept awake so that they can share their visions. This in my opinion would give excellent results for demon evocation though I have yet had the opportunity to try such a delectable treat.

If one were solo, one could perhaps take a hit of LSD or other favorite hallucinogen and summon up a demonlover as a succubus. She will come, I guarantee that much.

Sex magick in lucid dreaming is as powerful as it gets, but you have to learn to lucid dream first so I'm not sure this is what most people consider sex magick.

These are all just to give you an idea what is possible solo.

For couples I think its virtually endless what they could come up with. Intensity is key, and so is sincerity of intent. But other than that I think there are endless opportunities for devising devilishly fun and efficacious rituals. You know who and I have done one with dozens of mirrors of various sizes scattered around the room lit with only candles. This combined with hours of sex and (too much) incense and we were high as kites (drug free)! We were hallucinating our conjurations vividly to say the least.

Sex magick, as far as demon evocation/invocation is concerned, is just another method to alter the day to day consciousness enough to communicate with the demon. Therefore there are many other useful methods that don't require sex whatsoever and many methods that can be combined with sex magick. It's more of a jump and practice sort of thing to work out the details for oneself. Hopefully that's enough detail to get you started.

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Old 10-04-2007, 02:44 AM   #2
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thanks for your reply,
Ive always thought Izabael was good at communicating through lucid dreaming since my first encounter but havent mastered it myself to be able to use it at will

Ive tried communicating through a scrying mirror but for me this isn't the best way for this spirit, strangely enough Izabael manifest faster just visualizing her standing in front of you and sure enough the impressions start coming in.

well i have asked for her help to learn about sex magic and and the best way to evocate her.
I couldn't find a partner that would do any magickal acts, if i mentioned that I would turn them of LOL theres good things to being solo. unless you and your parter were on a deep level there would be too many variables in my opinion. the only hallucinogen I have is Calea Zacatechichi, it very mild but does help lucid dreaming.

I have to keep on the look out now for signs that Izabael is doing something. last time I got a date and im sure Izabael was behind that. If thats possible than Im sure the answers will manifest in due time.
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Old 10-05-2007, 04:47 AM   #3
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the only hallucinogen I have is Calea Zacatechichi, it very mild but does help lucid dreaming.

Awesome! I have never tried it but I'm ordering some now. That would be helpful for a lot of people if I could report positive results.

Yeah, you aren't the only one to notice Izabael doesn't summon so well when overly confined. She tends to speak through omens...her symbol is the breeze. How can you contain a breeze? Better to understand the meaning of the wind's rustling....................

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Old 10-05-2007, 05:51 AM   #4
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omg what you said is so true, when you said her symbol is the breeze. and butterfly's too.
when I was outside once and doing an open eye visualization type thing while having a smoke. the picture came crystal clear like a ghost somewhat and I strong breeze went by and I felt a presence that I was sure was her.

Isn't it amazing I take these little things for granted but this spirit has taught me alot about learning to read messages in signs and stuff. the time it takes from just a though and thinking about izabael and a question to getting a sign is really fast. and the signs can be quite spectacular. She can find hidden truths very well O.O bringing things into the open (people and events) and brings to you beautiful women hahaha. pleasure is not to be ashamed of but sexual attraction is the driving force that creates life.

This is different than the goetia spirits that you have to have strict ceremonial process and something that is more like using direct force. In my opinion goetia spirits manifest very strong. they can fill the room with thick atmosphere that can suffocate you O.O something with fear helps bring out this part of you. like fear creates a type of trance. but it also is dangerous because the mind can become the fear in itself. nothing wrong with facing your own demons. should be a form of getting in touch with your darker sides and in turn helps you conquer that and become in control. making you more masterful. and less prone to sudden acts of violence and evil that is out of character.

Izabael has a darker side too that I have encountered recently. it is more demonic and geotia like. and her form can be feminine but demonic like.
maybe another spirit or a familiar or and actual part of her personality im not sure. still looking into this.

I have done evocations of Izabael over the span of a week performing the ritual every night at the same time. LBRP LBRP and so forth and gazing into a mirror and only gotten some forgotten recollection of my past like a typical scrying session. with nothing significant but In the time before falling asleep I have gotten better results than weeks of ceremonial work

Calea Zacatechichi is very bitter tasting. I recommend a couple of joints before bed. and you will get a slight euphoric feeling like smoking marijuana and falling asleep will be harder but you will find when you sleep that the level of sleep wont go into deep levels so that you will be more on the awake asleep threshold that you get like the few hours before waking up when your dreams are more frequent and vivid. but your quality of sleep wont be as good and you may wake up feeling more tired than usual.
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Hmm .. hallucinatory stuff. (you probably have these)

*cinnamon oil - may sound weird, but in the right dosages in certain popular & Crowley recommended oils containing and comprized mainly of cinnamon oil - it can indeed become quite psychoactive (moses oil [receipe in the Bible] for example). Careful, this stuff will turn that pretty white skin, red. [i do not suggest using it as a sexual lube under any circumstances despite temptation]

*absinthe - particularly if it contains cardomom as well as Artemisia Absintheum, and that's before theugern(sp) or whatever that stuff is that people used to dose with Green Faery (the stuff coming out of South America - legal & on the shelf - doesn't have this stuff & has extremely low levels of A.A.) ~ also, abby is theorhetically good for ridding oneself of parasites and must be treated with respect (might want to lay off if you're turning grey)

*basic street - i'd favor cactus before pizza personally and the lab creation - does practicly nothing for me any more

*broom - never had it personally, but i hear it'll knock you silly . the Witch I know who has access to it, says it's very useful for certain types of magick, particularly "flight" or astral travel - some people are pretty stingy about their personal herb garden's good luck finding it .b.t.w. it's only semi-legal [just not really policed any more]

*deadly nightshade tea - one person I know, is good enough with this stuff to brew a drinkable tea, that not only tastes great and refreshes your thirst, but causes a nice little lucid dreaming episode (however, being that she's really careful, she wont guide my dreams because I create dreamscapes for others by literally occupying a space close to them astrally & she thinks i could accidently hurt someone and doesn't want to be responsible) -Dont try to brew this unless you're sure about the dosage (which i can't supply you)- certain individuals I know have also referred to this 'potion' as their "sleep spell" & believe me, building tolerance takes a while [however i am now capable of receiving whatever the full dose is & driving my car home before an hours nap - typically lasts 48 hours]

*salvia divinorum - best time i had with this involved seeing the old Viking Style - White Queen - welcoming me to the amuzement park, that I'd never be leaving (one of those old Norse hell's I think - dunno, i was around some Norse shamans & i think i was getting their messages) at this point, the whole damn house was spliting into pieces and being carried off on a giant ferris-wheel (this was with a x35 potency - two-toke, hold it for 60 seconds type hit) & I found the situation hilarious and began cackling like a mad old sorcerer. Friends have reported particularly increased results when working any sort of magick surrounding the manipulation of Time with this substance - with verifiable increases in not only the number of 'faster than light' brain particles, but actual precision around the predictions allowed by the window of bio-chemical agetants present. (as such, I'm pretty sure I'm damned in the eyes of Odin (but then, I haven't stabbed anyone recently)) - dont worry, for as intense as it is, it's over in a few seconds [based on similarity of results, i've asked the Witch if this stuff is the same as broom, she said no, and insists it's not even in the same family]

*homemade wine - good homemade wine, ventnered out in the mountains and left until you come back for it a few months later - will damn sure alter your reality

*moonshine - not really all that great spiritually, however, any lucid conciousness can be made useful with the right techniques - and you'll certainly have that; also great for degreasing someone's engine as a practicle joke ~ believe it or not, if the brewer knows what they're doing, this stuff can actually taste good; as well as not kill you - make sure you know your brewer, some folks experiment alchemically with this stuff - hence why people die occasionally from mercury poisoning (well - that and brewing practices that they perhaps know nothing about, cuz that's how pappy did it) and at any rate - you're the guniea-pig.

*Devil's Root - yeah, remember the book 'Food of the Gods'? Topics of drug use being used in shamanism as presented to the western mind stated:
this is the most powerful hallucinagen on the planet & i do not recommend mixing it with other drugs until it is experienced by itself first.
personal: Reality seemed to shift in & out for 3 days. I did pretty good only ending up in a mental hospital for a couple nights after the third straight day without sleep as a result of taking a hit, (unwarned as it was) ... I can offer no explaination as to how that came about, nor as to why I wasn't arrested for killing the people who dosed me.
advice: Be careful what you ask for, even in passing, even if you're by yourself. Just like Izabael warns.
research: I have seen multiple videos of various experienced individuals that I know, while under the affects of this drug. Hours of footage a piece. I can only conclude, that these individuals do not know where the hell they are - let alone - who they're around, for days at a time. Musical aptitudes involving dance or performing seem to be increased as the drug does indeed affect concentration in positive ways - for short periods. Pain tolerance is at an all time high. Strength is governed by immediate addrenaline supply at the slightest aggressive behavior. I was suddenly a force of destruction in the hospital & it required 25 individuals to restrain me & it still took a half hour: at one point, I was literally climbing a hallway like a spider, with people hanging off of me and two even mounted on my back. -DO NOT- Irritate individuals under the effects. Also - application of Thorazine, does not guarantee sleep. However, the shock, caused by your organs actually shutting down from the clash - will - after a painful 3.5 hours (given a constitution similar to my own).
assessment: this drug does indeed make everything I've mentioned, including the street drugs, on level with a hershey bar - by comparison.
magical application: I'm not sure how far it goes. I only managed to complete a rite to evoke an Angel successfully. After that - I was a little too chaotic, accept to notice the 'drug spirits' which seemed to be randomly appearing genomes. (i go ahead and mention there are common hallucinatory beings that are seen on this drug - but i wont tell you what - just in case you experiment - i can verify in private if you need)
recommendation: If you MUST try this, make sure you A) will not end up in a mental hospital, B) know you're going to do it C) have a babysitter you can trust D) do not operate heavy machinery or pilot your leer jet (or car - OR bumpercar - not even at a fair) [i know one of you is bound to insist that you immediately go out and start jackhammering the streets in the middle of rush-hour along with a crew of your friends dressed in construction gear ~ just because i said this ... but ... ]

.... DOH ... I wrote a book. Oh well. Hope maybe this stuff helps.

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Hmm .. hallucinatory stuff. (you probably have these)
Experimentation with Mandrake on my end has allowed for extensive lucid dreaming. (It was one of the many possible ingredients for that infamous Flying Ointment.) The major problem with it is that you have to be extremely careful with the dose you use, or you'll be expurgating your stomach.

While it never happened to me, what did happen is that over time I completely fucked up my serotonin levels and hit a wall of depression... at least until a buddy of mine was like: "Dude, it's the mandrake and you're an idiot!"

Still. I love the stuff. Tiny little pinch before ritual and let the good times roll. Tiny little pinch before bed, and you can go on a joyride... where-ever.

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Experimentation with Mandrake on my end has allowed for extensive lucid dreaming. (It was one of the many possible ingredients for that infamous Flying Ointment.) The major problem with it is that you have to be extremely careful with the dose you use, or you'll be expurgating your stomach.

While it never happened to me, what did happen is that over time I completely fucked up my serotonin levels and hit a wall of depression... at least until a buddy of mine was like: "Dude, it's the mandrake and you're an idiot!"

Still. I love the stuff. Tiny little pinch before ritual and let the good times roll. Tiny little pinch before bed, and you can go on a joyride... where-ever.
Sounds fun. Did you buy the seeds and then grow the plant yourself?

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Sounds fun. Did you buy the seeds and then grow the plant yourself?
No, but my mentor's wife gave them to me and I'm fairly sure she did grow them. In fact, we plan to experiment with Mandragore guardians in the near future (we even have a small black dog - a poodle - and earmuffs so it can pull them free from the ground). I'd personally like to experiment with planting them based on the lunar cycles; the household guardian being planted and worked on based on full moons, and "something else" played with during the dark cycles.

Useful plant, that mandrake.

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A little info I was able to find, although not a lot, with the most important info being where to obtain it. If anyone else out there knows...PLEASE enlighten us. Anyway:

THE BROOMS

Bean family (Leguminosae)

There is some confusion as to which is the most potent of the three species of brooms used for their psychotropic effects. According to the paper first reporting the discovery of the effects of these plants, the blossoms of Canary Island broom were the "most pleasant and effective" of the three. This is also the species used by Yaqui shamans. Some herbals claim that Spanish broom tops are five times as strong as Scotch broom, while other sources claim that the alkaloid content of the Scotch broom is higher than that of the other two. To clarify (or confuse) the issue, it has been found that alkaloid content varies with environment.

Canary Island Broom (Cytisus canariensis L., formerly Genista canariensis). A much-branched shrub to 6 feet tall with hairy branches, covered with bright green leaves divided into three leaflets. This is the only broom of the three that keeps its leaves through the year. It flowers from May to July, and is covered with many bright yellow blossoms in short racemes. It is damaged at 15 degrees Fahrenheit but it recovers quickly. Native to the Canary Islands.

Scotch Broom (Cytisus scoparius L.). A shrub to 10 feet with many erect, slender, almost leafless branches. The flowers are yellow, 0.75 inch long, and bloom from March to June. Native to central and southern Europe; naturalized in California and found sparingly in the East.

Spanish Broom (Spartium junceum L.). A shrub to 10 feet high with slender green branches and bearing a few small leaves. The flowers are yellow, 1 inch long, and fragrant, followed by 4 inch long pods. Blooms from June to September in most of the US. In California it flowers most of the year. Native to the Mediterranean region.

Cultivation and Propagation: The brooms need a well-drained soil and full sun. They often naturalize on dry, rocky slopes in the west. Scotch and Spanish broom are hardy everywhere except in the most northern states, while Canary Island broom is hardy only in the west and south. All are very drought-resistant.

Brooms are easily propagated by seeds, cuttings, and layers. Seeds may be started as early as January. They should be nicked and soaked until swollen before sowing. Seedlings should be transplanted carefully when young; they transplant well when older. Plants grown from seed will flower 1 year from sowing. Cuttings should be young growth taken with a heel in early spring or August and September. They should be rooted in sandy soil. When grown as a pot or tub plant, they should be pruned after flowering. They should be left outdoors from early spring until light frost in the fall. Brooms are subject to attack by the genista worm in southern California. These are difficult to control except with DDT.

Harvesting: Broom plants grown in full sun have a higher alkaloid content than those grown in the shade. The flowers should be gathered, aged in a sealed jar for 10 days, and dried at a low heat. The aging greatly reduces the harshness of the smoke. The active flowering tops may be gathered in May and dried without aging. Any material from pruning may also be used.



BROOM −− (Genista, Cytisus, Spartium spp.). Family Leguminosae
(Bean family).
Material: Blossoms of any of several species including Canary
Island broom (Genista canariensis), Scotch broom (Cytisus scoparius),
and Spanish broom (Spartium junceum).
Usage: Blossoms are collected,
aged in a sealed jar for 10 days, dried, and rolled into cigarettes.
Smoke is inhailed and held.
Active Constituents: Cytisine (a toxic pyridine).
Effects: One cigarette produces relaxed feelings for 2 hours.
More causes deeper relaxation and longer−lasting effects (4−5 hours).
Relaxation is deepest during 2 hours and is followed by mental
alertness and increased awareness of color without hallucinations.
Contraindications: Usually no undesirable side effects or
hangover. Some persons experience mild headache immediately after
smoking. Broom flowers are extremely toxic when ingested. Has heart−
stimulating properties like digitalis.
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Nion: Thanks for that post. It's excellent. You have a wide range of experience. A couple questions for my ignorance:

By Devil's Root do you mean "Datura"? Also known as Jimson's Weed or Devil's Weed--I don't often see it referred to as "root." It sounds like you are describing Datura, but I want to make sure.

Second I'm a little confused about "broom" too. Datura has also been known to produce that flying effect and been known to be used by witches who can "fly." When I search on brooms though I get this:

"THE BROOMS
Bean family (Leguminosae)

There is some confusion as to which is the most potent of the three species of brooms used for their psychotropic effects. According to the paper first reporting the discovery of the effects of these plants, the blossoms of Canary Island broom were the "most pleasant and effective" of the three. This is also the species used by Yaqui shamans. Some herbals claim that Spanish broom tops are five times as strong as Scotch broom, while other sources claim that the alkaloid content of the Scotch broom is higher than that of the other two. To clarify (or confuse) the issue, it has been found that alkaloid content varies with environment."

However, I also found this:

"The popular icon of a witch is an ugly old woman riding across the sky on her magic broomstick and wearing a pointed hat. But as with all mythologies there is an element of truth behind the image. Witches did ride brooms, after a fashion, the brooms were magic, in a way, and the pointed hat was the mildest of the punishments inflicted on them for their activities!

During the time leading up to the witchcraft trials in Europe, the staple bread was made with rye. In a small town where the bread was fresh baked this was just fine, but as Europe began to urbanize and the bread took more time to get from bakery to grocer, the rye bread began to host a mold called 'ergot'.

Ergot, in high doses, can be lethal, a fact that led to the rise in popularity of wheat bread, which is resistant to ergot mold.

In smaller doses, ergot is a powerful hallucinogenic drug. And because the enjoyment of such things is not confined to this age alone, it became quite popular among those who were inclined towards herbalism and folk cures. It's mentioned in Shakespeare's plays, and turns up in virtually every contemporary writing of the witchcraft age. In particular, it is the inevitable central ingredient in the ointment that witches rubbed their broomsticks with.

You see, when eaten, there was the risk of death, but when absorbed through the thin tissues of the female genitals, the hallucinogenic effects were more pronounced with less ill-effects. The modern image of a witch riding a broomstick was inspired by the sight of a woman rubbing herself on the drug coated smooth stick of her broom, writhing in the throes of hallucinations, and no doubt, some intense orgasms as well. To her unsophisticated neighbors, such a sight would have been terrifying. The lack of an equivalent mechanism for men is one reason why "witchcraft" was seen as a predominantly female phenomenon. The addition of clothing to the witch is a modern embellishment to protect 'Family Values'."


So which witch is witch? ;-)

Great post, Nion. Thanks again.

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