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Old 11-06-2011, 02:12 AM   #11
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I was reading and jack flash and iza mentioned this book. Nytek do you have a copy in pdf?
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Hi, first post.
I think you have to include Kraig's modern magick as it has such an edge on putting complex ideas on high magick into laymans terms.

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Definately, I havn't read all the way through it yet but its an excellent book. Here it is http://www.google.co.uk/url?sa=t&rct...4PwAt6n2J3t6LA
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Thanks for the link, I have been searching for this pdf for an absolute age!

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Hmm...ok so MM by Kraig was in the list to begin with, my bad

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I was reading and jack flash and iza mentioned this book. Nytek do you have a copy in pdf?

I believe I do.
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Old 12-20-2011, 12:23 AM   #17
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I was reading and jack flash and iza mentioned this book. Nytek do you have a copy in pdf?
"Voila."

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I don't believe most beginners will find a lot of value in AC or Grant's work.

I would suggest they look into some of these titles instead and save AC and Grant for once they have a little more experience/understanding.

SSOTBME by Ramsey Dukes
If it was easy everyone would be doing it by Francis Breakspear
Abrahadabra by Rodney Orpheus
Condensed Chaos by Phil Hine

I believe most students will find those four books invaluable and very down to Earth as far Occultism goes.

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I don't believe most beginners will find a lot of value in AC or Grant's work.

I would suggest they look into some of these titles instead and save AC and Grant for once they have a little more experience/understanding.

SSOTBME by Ramsey Dukes
If it was easy everyone would be doing it by Francis Breakspear
Abrahadabra by Rodney Orpheus
Condensed Chaos by Phil Hine

I believe most students will find those four books invaluable and very down to Earth as far Occultism goes.

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I realize your posts are attracting an undo amount of my attention, but nevertheless, isn't that a bit backwards? You're suggesting anything having to do with the meta-paradigm Chaos Magic"K" before encountering such staples as Crowley's Book IV, Magick Without Tears, et al? Why? Though I can't complain about Orpheus and DuQuette's introduction type books into the often muddled subjects, either.

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I realize your posts are attracting an undo amount of my attention, but nevertheless, isn't that a bit backwards? You're suggesting anything having to do with the meta-paradigm Chaos Magic"K" before encountering such staples as Crowley's Book IV, Magick Without Tears, et al? Why? Though I can't complain about Orpheus and DuQuette's introduction type books into the often muddled subjects, either.

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They'll encounter the greats along the way.

I'm giving them a push towards the shallow end of the pool versus throwing them to much less accessible works of Crowley.

I love Crowley's work and am proud to have several titles of his on my shelf... but for Magick in general, the aforementioned authors are a good start or INTRODUCTION to magick. I'm not telling aspirants to avoid Uncle Al's work, I'm just suggesting what I think they'll get the most out of in the dawn of their magickal career.

The magicians I've mentioned all built their work or were at least very influenced by the likes of Liber ABA and it's in most all of their suggested reading lists, they'll encourage the reader to seek it out. I believe the student will have a better understanding of Magick and the source material as a whole.

Crowley's work is invaluable, but it's not the best thing to use to introduce someone new to the Occult w/. The other authors are down to Earth, modern occultists, that can speak to the reader in a way they already understand.

And after they've been on the path for a while Crowley begins to make more sense.

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