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Old 07-23-2010, 05:50 PM   #1
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I found the following short article online. I think it's interesting to compare finding a Guardian Demon to finding a Guardian Angel. It's even more interesting when I remember reading somewhere that Izabael says she considers the demon Seere/Izabael to be her HGA.

Is there really THAT much of a difference finding guiding guardian angelic spirit, or a demonic one? The knee jerk reaction is "of course!" but look at this article....it does tests that would be appropriate to finding a guardian angel. Perhaps some people would be uncomfortable with a guardian angel and using a so-called demon works best.

The real thing seems to be this human need to trust in something higher than our conscious mind (which is understandable considering how much it screws up!)


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If You Have Trouble Finding Your Guardian Demon
By Caitlin/Silvercrab

The mistake most new people make is attempting to find their Guardian through a pendulum or Ouija board. If you have absolutely no past experience or practice with these items, they probably won’t work for you. Using a Ouija board or pendulum takes SKILL and PRACTICE. When you’re new, you must be in a trance and completely disconnect yourself from the board or you will end up talking to yourself, which is a very common occurrence. There is also a chance a negative entity might interfere with communication or fool you into believing they’re a Demon and give you false information. So as you can see, a lot can go wrong here if you aren’t already skilled in these areas.

So, how do you find your Guardian? There are many reliable ways, such as Astral Projection, Astral Merging, using a black mirror, or invoking the Demon. But all these are advanced methods which most people are unable to do until they are at least on the intermediate level. So for beginners, here are a few things you can do to narrow down the list.

Go look through ALL the Demons listed on joyofsatan.com, even the “High Ranking Gods and Crowned Princes of Hell” section because hey, you never know. Also, don’t forget the section underneath the S - Z Demons titled “More Gods”. Not everyone’s Guardian Demon is going to be one of the 72 Goetic Demons, but that doesn’t mean your Guardian is any less special. Pazuzu, for example, is not one of the 72 Goetic Demons, but he is very powerful and is a great protector. Write down the names of the Demons who interest you, the ones you really like. Once you have a complete list of Demons who attract you, apply these tips:

*Your Guardian Demon will usually have the same element(s) as you. When I say that, I’m not referring to your astrological sign, I’m referring to the element you love the most. You do not need experience with invoking the elements to figure out which one is your favorite. To read information on each one:
Invoking Fire
Invoking Earth
Invoking Air
Invoking Water

*Kudos to Reverend Mageson and High Priest Jake Carlson for figuring this one out. The sex of your Guardian is usually dependant on your own sexuality. Meaning, the straight man has a female Guardian, the homosexual man has a male Guardian. Even the most evenly split of bisexuals have a preference. If you’re a bisexual woman who likes other women just a little bit more than men, chances are you’ll have a female Guardian. I believe this pattern has to do with what you’re most comfortable with.

Now that you’ve narrowed down your list (but please remember that the above tips are not set in stone and might not apply to everyone) ask yourself these questions:

“Am I truly comfortable with the idea of _____________ being my Guardian Demon?” When I was new, there were several Demons I thought looked very cool and kick ass, but when I thought about it after a few days, I realized the idea just didn’t feel quite right.

“Do I love absolutely everything about ______________?” This is self-explanatory. There may be a Demon that you really like and respect, but if you embrace the idea of him/her as your Guardian and you feel a consistent longing to keep looking at other Demons, then he/she probably isn’t the one. When you find your true Guardian, you should feel a strong bond, an unquestioning love. Most people have been with their Guardian in many other lifetimes, which is where that feeling comes from.

And finally, “Is there any reason to believe ______________ would not suit me as a Guardian?” Don’t just take the information listed about the Demon into account. You’re probably not going to have everything in common with your Guardian. For example, someone with Bifrons as their Guardian might be very interested in necromancy and astrology, but not in learning the magical properties of herbs and stones. Use your intuition with this question.

By now you should have narrowed down your list to only one or two Demons. Now comes the part where you figure out if He/She is really your Guardian:

Get yourself into a deep trance..
Vibrate the name of the Demon 30 - 40 times. (Ex: Amon. A-A-A-A-M-M-M-M-O-O-O-O-N-N-N-N). After a while, you should feel his/her energy. Connect with the Demon as best you can.

Ask _____________ if he/she is your Guardian. You will probably not see or hear anything if you are not psychically open, but you should FEEL their response.. Interpreting energy like this might be difficult at first, and if you don’t understand the response, then tell them you don’t understand and ask for a stronger signal. If you receive a very warm, positive signal then you’ve probably found your Guardian. If not, go back over your list and try again.

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Old 03-18-2011, 07:20 PM   #2
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I found the following short article online. I think it's interesting to compare finding a Guardian Demon to finding a Guardian Angel. It's even more interesting when I remember reading somewhere that Izabael says she considers the demon Seere/Izabael to be her HGA.

Is there really THAT much of a difference finding guiding guardian angelic spirit, or a demonic one? The knee jerk reaction is "of course!" but look at this article....it does tests that would be appropriate to finding a guardian angel. Perhaps some people would be uncomfortable with a guardian angel and using a so-called demon works best.

The real thing seems to be this human need to trust in something higher than our conscious mind (which is understandable considering how much it screws up!)
a most excellent place to find your guardian demon is at the Ordo Templi Serpentis (O.T.S.) visit

templiserpentis.com
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Old 03-20-2011, 02:43 AM   #3
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I read that article awhile ago, the whole male /female thing does not hold true. I am a straight male and my guardian is not female. I have actually been doing some work and discovered that I have a guardian angel as well. Not sure if it is my HGA. But my Guardian-deamon and I have had long conversations, and he has saved my life several times before an acidents. As far as the skill level, I think that is a matter more determined by the acts of your guardian... My D-guardian says he has always been with me and waiting for me to reach out to him, after each reincarnation he waits for me to pick up where I left off. And I realized that he has talked with me at an early age. Just my thoughts... Only holds water for me, because I can't prove it to you. But I guess it is the same with the guy who wrote that article.
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I read that article awhile ago, the whole male /female thing does not hold true. I am a straight male and my guardian is not female. I have actually been doing some work and discovered that I have a guardian angel as well. Not sure if it is my HGA. But my Guardian-deamon and I have had long conversations, and he has saved my life several times before an acidents. As far as the skill level, I think that is a matter more determined by the acts of your guardian... My D-guardian says he has always been with me and waiting for me to reach out to him, after each reincarnation he waits for me to pick up where I left off. And I realized that he has talked with me at an early age. Just my thoughts... Only holds water for me, because I can't prove it to you. But I guess it is the same with the guy who wrote that article.
iv found my closest relation with lilith the elder and all her forms really and nahema ascivciac27c7f although i do feel the manifest of thy self spirit to be azazel in truest form. as i always said ten thousand chains couldnt hold me back and i never understood why i said that.
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a most excellent place to find your guardian demon is at the Ordo Templi Serpentis (O.T.S.) visit

templiserpentis.com
Mine is Beelzebub. I came across him very young and have adored him since. He has never seemed anything less than gentle to me.
Beelzebub, my one true love.
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Beelzebub, my one true love.
That is one thing that a lot of mystical systems and religions gloss over, try to deny or ignore. The relationship to the HGA is one of passion. The passion you have to your first love, that is what it should be like.

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And I believe in one Earth, the Mother of us all, and in one Womb wherein all men are begotten, and wherein they shall rest, Mystery of Mystery, in Her name BABALON.
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According to French websites, we all have two Guardian Demons. Mine are Buné from the Goetia & Diralisen, servitor of Beelzebub also known as Ba'al Azabab.

This first link lists our Guardian Demons from the Ars Goetia aka the Lemegeton aka the Lesser Key of Solomon.
http://magiemetapsychique.forumpro.f...artes-de-tarot

This second link lists our Guardian Demons from various sources.
http://norcalfart.free.fr/naissance.htm
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[QUOTE=Arckangel;5428]According to French websites, we all have two Guardian Demons. Mine are Buné from the Goetia & Diralisen, servitor of Beelzebub also known as Ba'al Azabab.

This first link lists our Guardian Demons from the Ars Goetia aka the Lemegeton aka the Lesser Key of Solomon.
http://magiemetapsychique.forumpro.f...artes-de-tarot

This second link lists our Guardian Demons from various sources.
http://norcalfart.free.fr/naissance.htm[/QU
I would love to research but I can not read french. English translation?
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Well, if you go to those sites, you'll see diagrams that anyone can understand.

It has birth dates and names of Spirits next to those. You just need to look out for your birth date and see which name of which Spirits matches yours.

The first site has your birth date + the name of your Goetic, followed by the name of your Kabbalah Angel.


The second site has your birth date & the name of your Kabbalah Angel (the same listed on the first site).

If you scroll down, you'll get to another list with your birth date followed by the name of your Guardian Demon (different than the one listed on the first site).
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Well, if you go to those sites, you'll see diagrams that anyone can understand.

It has birth dates and names of Spirits next to those. You just need to look out for your birth date and see which name of which Spirits matches yours.

The first site has your birth date + the name of your Goetic, followed by the name of your Kabbalah Angel.


The second site has your birth date & the name of your Kabbalah Angel (the same listed on the first site).

If you scroll down, you'll get to another list with your birth date followed by the name of your Guardian Demon (different than the one listed on the first site).
I should have been more specific. I want to read the whole site, i did see what you explained and gathered the basics. I guess I can copy and paste then run it through google translator. Thanks for bringing the site over to here. take care
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