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[amjollner]

I started invoking the the 4 arch Angels all at the same time, with some very interesting results and some very unexpected changes. First thing I noticed was the feeling of being plugged into a light socket, (best description) some very powerful energies. It was something I only let last a couple of minutes each time i did the invocation. Second thing I noticed was the change it was making on myself, my attitudes changed very dramaticly. It started to effect my personal and professional relationships in a very negetive way. I had to stop doing the invocations, but that even came with some very heavy baggage. I started feeling very depressed and this has lasted several months, I still do my LBRP, Kabala Cross. I hope to shake off the dark cloud of depression soon. Anyone know of a ritual that can help? I could go looking into my books but I have not felt much like reading them.... I need a little pep in my step. Is the only way to regain my energies (connection) to the devine is to go back and continue or maybe restart with Thelemic rituals? Although, I can tell you that the Angels were something ... Anyways, any advice to get feeling better or stronger would be really appreciated.

[nytek]

Originally Posted by amjollner

I started invoking the the 4 arch Angels all at the same time, with some very interesting results and some very unexpected changes. First thing I noticed was the feeling of being plugged into a light socket, (best description) some very powerful energies. It was something I only let last a couple of minutes each time i did the invocation. Second thing I noticed was the change it was making on myself, my attitudes changed very dramaticly. It started to effect my personal and professional relationships in a very negetive way. I had to stop doing the invocations, but that even came with some very heavy baggage. I started feeling very depressed and this has lasted several months, I still do my LBRP, Kabala Cross. I hope to shake off the dark cloud of depression soon. Anyone know of a ritual that can help? I could go looking into my books but I have not felt much like reading them.... I need a little pep in my step. Is the only way to regain my energies (connection) to the devine is to go back and continue or maybe restart with Thelemic rituals? Although, I can tell you that the Angels were something ... Anyways, any advice to get feeling better or stronger would be really appreciated.

You can try Letana from the grimoire Kingdoms of Flame. Izabael will attest that since I showed her KoF it's changed her life very much for the better. It is my favorite grimoire, I think. Koetting calls the plane the KoF spirits inhabit between Earth and Astral the "regnum spiritus", I believe. That plane is even closer to manifestation than the spirits of other grimoires. The results can come fast and pretty hardcore.

When my business partner and friend nearly ruined my life a few years ago I'd turned to Letana, and found I could shrug off much of my problems through equanimity or distraction after that. The people around me, too. Our suffering was reduced or buffered though they knew nothing. We all were able to take things really well.

Additionally, Sakatos smooths the way for spiritual and material ascension and reduces chaos in one's life. One could even call on Archangel Raphael for emotional healing. Sekhmet too. Perhaps Dionysios by learning from him to let go.

Nytek

[amjollner]

Thank you.... I will try it and let you know if it made some positive changes.

[amjollner]

Nytek,
Where can I find this book? I did the google search, looked at amazon, nothing on this book title. I did read an interview of Koetting, it had his picture with it, I was expecting a Dumbeldor kinda chapp. LOL.

I did find E A Koetting's evoking eternity. I've already read three quarters of it...

[amjollner]

I found a copy with the help of Poete Maudit. Thank you Poete.
I have read about 20 or so pages and it seems very much the flavor of evoking eternity, maybe with some different characters. I will keep updating on the progress I make.

[Poete Maudit]

As Nytek has related, this is a powerful grimoire.

If called upon using Koetting's system given in Evoking Eternity, these entities work, without ambiguity, as they are described and as they are asked to, and do so without requiring archaic paraphernalia, a black hen's blood, robes spun by a virgin, and other mumbo jumbo, without needing threats and commands and Hebrew godnames, and without demanding pacts and services and sacrifices of the magician. The pathworking is also most real.

[amjollner]

Originally Posted by Poete Maudit

As Nytek has related, this is a powerful grimoire.

If called upon using Koetting's system given in Evoking Eternity, these entities work, without ambiguity, as they are described and as they are asked to, and do so without requiring archaic paraphernalia, a black hen's blood, robes spun by a virgin, and other mumbo jumbo, without needing threats and commands and Hebrew godnames, and without demanding pacts and services and sacrifices of the magician. The pathworking is also most real.

I finished "KOF" and "evoking eternity," 3/4 through "baneful magic," plus I finished his "becoming a living god". Koetting has become one of my favorites.

[amjollner]

Originally Posted by amjollner

I finished "KOF" and "evoking eternity," 3/4 through "baneful magic," plus I finished his "becoming a living god". Koetting has become one of my favorites.

I just finished The Book of Azazel, the grimoire of the damned by Koetting. and I feel compelled to talk about is so i started a new Post Goetia, Azazel. I know that he is not one of the 72 Goetia but it seemed the best place to talk about the message.

[amjollner]

Originally Posted by amjollner

I just finished The Book of Azazel, the grimoire of the damned by Koetting. and I feel compelled to talk about is so i started a new Post Goetia, Azazel. I know that he is not one of the 72 Goetia but it seemed the best place to talk about the message.

When I go back to read my old post, I find them as excellent sources of information. Funny I still think of myself as a noob, but going over so much information, and knowing so many answers to the questions I read is unbelievable. I have reached the point, that I've read about, where you have proven to yourself that it is all real. To actually get the things you, but to have a little apprehension because of the ways you request come to be. That I have actually come to the point of what difference does it all make. Sinister is the mind of the operator, and not so much the divine power we tab into. Funny, I thought the story would be different, but is not. You as the operator holds the good and bad, the spirits just give you what was asked. Hmm interesting.