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[Barrackubus]

We are at most magicians of alot of different kinds, and are apart of alot of belief systems. My question is, have you ever had to envoke an assault upon someone because of harm they have caused you in the interest of protection?
what was the situation or crises that caused you to ask for intervention and what exactly was the results?

[Barrackubus]

The law of justice by divine return, tells me that it is possible in some ways to.reap what you sow. And as a magician it is possible to bring the sowing to fruition. It was a few years ago when a particular person had been stealing my daughters medication. She had been.prescribed a dosage of xanax, and although I too, have taken xanax from time.to time, I wouldnt ever possibly conceive stealing them from my child. At the time we had a busy home and was helping a few individuals with a place to lay their head because f some issues that had nothing to do with me.
Once the medication, had been discovered missing the investigation was on, and somehow, someway the tables had been turned in my direction, who I didnt know at the.time was the one who had stolen the meds. Evidently, I wasnt present for the conversation that led to that conclusion. Talk about manipulative.
Once, I was alone with my family, I told them we (me and my spiritual.guides) was going to mark the hands of the one who stole the medication. I had no obvious suspects, but I just felt the hands was and is vital to theft, kind of like some of the third world.countries will actually cut off your hands for stealing, I didnt feel it should be that extreme, but something should be done. Sometimes I will do magick to get the answers to things I need to know where evidence is lacking. After a few weeks that person that almost.convinced others I had stolen her medication, leaves for a weekend excursion or something. Upon his return his hands had been bandaged from finger to.elbows from burns he had suffered from some type of fire. he was blistered from fingers to elbows. After observing this, he was soon pushed out and was moved away..

[nytek]

Originally Posted by Barrackubus

We are at most magicians of alot of different kinds, and are apart of alot of belief systems. My question is, have you ever had to envoke an assault upon someone because of harm they have caused you in the interest of protection?

Being opinionated more often than not doesn't win you friends. Furthermore, doing things others consider truthfully scary or heretical to their faith expressly is not the kind of thing that normally fosters anything but paranoia by your immediate association to it (eg., conjuring demons, let's say).

That in mind, I had one guy about my age who was a white lighter; a Rosicrucian actually. Ugh. I made mention to him about this "circle" of sorts I was putting together to explore evocation, in part only, of demons. I suppose it bugged him out that I wasn't treating them in the traditional Abrahamic manner of moral superiority and command as we spoke briefly about that.

We were meant to deal with Angels too, but yeah, the demon part stuck I guess. And eventually I was getting rudeness, an air of superiority, and flagrant disrespect in the form of lies and shirking appointments where he was set to meet myself and another. This was later confirmed when all hell broke loose when he started quoting from Book of John certain passages that condemned evil people.

Meanwhile, before all that tension breaks, I'm biting my tongue thinking he will come around and warm up to me at any point now. I recall trying to be helpful and extending my hand in assistance to boot. In other words I was doing my damnest to be polite. No change. It got worse. So it had to come to a head. And it did.

what was the situation or crises

At some point, he basically said in one email designed to sound menacing, "There is a new project beginning." Anyone in the world of magic that threatens to curse you probably isn't worth shit, in plain English. But yeah, that was said in sly reference to me pointing out how his own plan to create (on film for the local media, nonetheless!) a massive magical orgy where one woman would represent each Qlipphotic sephiroth, while he tried to get them to all orgasm at the same time, was a self-absorbed masturbation fantasy. I basically pointed out how insane it was but through my anger. His response was to tell me a new project had begun, again, that in mind.

Our talks became me pointing out his disrespect and rudeness, the which he shrugged off with the worst type of excuses. He then predictably would point the finger back at me in crude ways to deflect the truth of my statements. Crude dealings. Thusly in my younger stage of development I was in at the time, I'd essentially insulted him every which way from here to Sunday, and essentially called him a coward, and doubted he could do anything with magic anyway. Yeah. I guess that wasn't very wise of me in retrospect if I didn't want him to prove to himself just how cool he was. But you live and you learn to control yourself, and let most idiots be idiots, more or less.

and what exactly was the results?

In short, after about a month and a half or so of daily works which became less and less frequent towards the end, I moved on. Eventually I came back to it, being one that doesn't forgive the idea of trying to harm me easily, and a friend wrote him a letter pretending to be from nearby OTO and inviting him to the lodge. He bit hook, line, and sinker, and it really fucked with him for a while when the OTO lodgemaster questioned his faith and abilities.

In the end, he concluded it was me, if not something tied to me. He wrote me a letter as if nothing happened; jovial sounding and it made almost no sense. It was like the ramblings of an insane person. I remember it said something about his mother and vegetables or something in one sentence that sticks out to me still.

He, in the next letter, said he lost everything (just as I asked for). He lost his girlfriend. Painfully. An affair was found out to have happened a long time ago. She admitted it, as she was caught cheating and came clean. He lost faith in his abilities. He lost his spiritual beliefs and path and had to refind himself and was just beginning a new path at that point. He had no money as he lost his job. He was getting clothes from Freemasons out of pity and compassion. He had no money to pay a professional for help either for that matter, and could get no sympathy otherwise anyway.

About six months had passed from start to where I was then. At that time He said, "Things have been horrible these last six months", verbatim. And he said that these days he is different, and has less of a shell of arrogance and haughtiness. He said more or less how he's learned from his mistakes and all that. To me, it was a big roundabout way of saying, "I surrender. I fucked up. Please just let me be." And that was probably my favorite outcome from these kinds of happenings in my past.



Nytek

[Barrackubus]

I had a situation arise back during the end of my last marriage, the reason this so still important to me is that it made me totally rethink the RHP mindset I had trained with up to this point, but you can't bless everything til all.the bad goes away, and sometimes it's okay not to be the doormat, as some RHPs appear to be. It was the situation that hallmarked that love and light is not the answer for everything. Are you going to stand there and let someone kick your ass or are you going to stand up and do something about it, or if someone breaks in your home, are you going to be so right sided you'll just help them pack your valuables so to speak. No, of course not.
I had been married a few years, six to be exact and my wife started having an affair, the.one thing I had already discovered about her even before this point is that she was sneaky and manipulative, to say the least. It had turned out I had been pretty much forced into a homeless type situation, you know staying with friends here and there until I pretty much was able to get my shit together. The home we shared was hers before we married was hers before, so I was pretty much at her mercy as to whether or not I really ever had a place to live in the first place. But nonetheless, while I was at work one evening texting her on my phone trying to reason with her insane screwed up whatever, I live life with no rules, whatever bullshit. She makes a drastic mistake and sends me a picture of him and her, to my phone. And already, knowing what this guy may have looked like he was huge, and if we ever gotten in a physical confrontation, he would have crushed me, this energy was important. But he decides to text me as well, and in his texting he gave me an invintation, and this energy was also important to what took place afterwards the fact he invited me to do something about my situation if I didnt like him being with my wife.
Wow, I thought, why has the universe and the gods, guides whatever put me in this situation or what can I do, it was early in my practice, but something in me heated up and I started to gather energy and consider energy I had.gathered previously. It was early winter and throughout that day, not really paying attention to the news or the radio swine flu was mentioned within my hearing on those media outlets at least three times that day, subtle but it became important to me. I was cooking on the inside, I was scared of alot of things that day, my life, my marriage, my family all gone, no place to live, my conditions were all screwed up and this guy asks me to do something about it, if I can. And I push back telling him with alot of intent, when I pushed the send button that I never lose. I felt two energies, when I incanted with two messages, yes, yes you can send energy with a cell phone, two messages sick pig and scar across the lungs, that was all, he obviously ignored them or whatever, because the conversation was pretty much over and he was pretty much laughing at my Dana Carvey size anyway.
Time passes, that was in November, I come to our house for Yule, I hadnt seen my youngest daughter in a month, I spent christmas week at home with the kids, my wife pretty much mad at me the whole week, her boyfriend is in the hospital and she knows it is my fault, trying to sound concerned I ask, what is wrong, why is he in the hospital.
Her response, he has pneumonia and I know you gave it too him. At this point I wasnt to sure because I had sent two, not one I kept thinking as the week progressed. She kept at it and at one point she was on the phone with sister, and after hanging up she was really pissed at me, jumped on me with feet so to speak, turned out he had swine flu and pneumonia at the same time and had been in ICU for several weeks, of course at that time I was completely sure I had did it, and had and wanted to admit it, that I kicked her boyfriends ass, that I did something about it....Of course I left at that moment and it had been several more months before I saw my daughter again...

[myst moonlight]

I personally wouldn't use magick for revenge but I would cast a spell to get a person to stop. Or maybe a spell to send their own nagativity back at them.

[believer]

side note. i suggest something less potent as xanax. benzodiazepines are highly addictive and the withdrawal is pretty much the most horrifying withdrawal process i have been told. other than that, follow what you believe to be right, no more no less

[Anubis]

There are times where I'm like fuck this guy, I'll hex the fuck out of him, but then I think there's always an easier way for me to do this. Io Mercury, I'll fuck with his head and make him my "friend", or I'll just use my pikey powers and knock dae fuka's chompers off 'is head.

[believer]

gonna get blasted with some psychic energy. doesnt sound very fun