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[Barrackubus]

Originally Posted by believer

no i smoked it to invoke the contract ha. not much happened the following week save for some intense hallucinations (seeing people around me when i was alone). then a bunch of crazy shit that has drastically altered my life. pretty much within 2 weeks of smoking it, i was admitted to a psyche ward, then a rehab facility, and i am currently in a halfway house in MD. as bad as that would seem, my life is far better than it was previously. also is that uzu for your profile pic?

For the record.....i wasn't trying to be a d*ckhead....i was being humorous and serious at the same time. I honestly have never heard of any entity requiring or asking for a contract or any of the other things you have mentioned. It seems that maybe either there are some pieces missing or it may have something to do with the cigarrette.
I'm not sure how but, maybe you might want to try some sort of divination tool, such as cards, pendelum, runes or maybe a ouija board. To see if another contact can be established. If it is as close as you feel.it appears to be then it should be able to communicate with you other ways.
Do.you feel.any other physical manifestations other than what you have described???

[wartyg96]

Originally Posted by Barrackubus

For the record.....i wasn't trying to be a d*ckhead....i was being humorous and serious at the same time. I honestly have never heard of any entity requiring or asking for a contract or any of the other things you have mentioned. It seems that maybe either there are some pieces missing or it may have something to do with the cigarrette.
I'm not sure how but, maybe you might want to try some sort of divination tool, such as cards, pendelum, runes or maybe a ouija board. To see if another contact can be established. If it is as close as you feel.it appears to be then it should be able to communicate with you other ways.
Do.you feel.any other physical manifestations other than what you have described???

I've heard of a few cases. Also, books like the "Grand Grimoire" had pacts in which would be contract like in nature..

As for telling someone to follow them, some spirits would, some wouldn't...

[believer]

getting chills more frequently than i ever have and unusual strokes of luck that seem more than just coincidence, also the radical life altering turn of events that suddenly and inexplicably occurred kind of strikes me as unusual. i must learn divination. i have a thoth tarot, but i need to get it sent up from VA. is a black mirror a worthy investment?

[эрик]

A pendulum would be a good first start methinks. Easy to make yourself. Once made hold it and ask it to show that which is yes and that which is no. Then ask a few questions. Sometimes you'll get a response sometimes not. As for a black mirror, you could buy a photo frame, take out the glass and spray the back of the glass with black spray paint. Tada.

[believer]

Originally Posted by эрик

A pendulum would be a good first start methinks. Easy to make yourself. Once made hold it and ask it to show that which is yes and that which is no. Then ask a few questions. Sometimes you'll get a response sometimes not. As for a black mirror, you could buy a photo frame, take out the glass and spray the back of the glass with black spray paint. Tada.

black mirror was what i was thinking of doing, though pendulum attracts less attention so that might be a better option

[amjollner]

Originally Posted by believer

i am asking for help not dickheads trying to be superior not a lot of conversation occurred so had to fill in some gaps. and its not so much that i have to follow anymore, its that i want to purely out of free will as i kind of owe my life at this point. though you may give it, i do not need your opinion to believe that what happened to me was true or not. so if you are just going to be a negative nancy, and try to turn a willing mind away from what i am now finding to be a powerful spiritual experience, then i would appreciate it if you no longer posted in this thread. otherwise, how about instead of unneccesary and hurtful criticism, you post something that is actually helpful?

on the otherhand, this could be the sign i was asking for. i performed a summoning of Aini and i was told that whatever contacted me was not of the goetia and pretty much a mystery as far as identity was concerned. upon receiving the sign i said i would contact Him a second time. if this is the case, then i thank you

Almost anything is possible. There are millions and millions of spiritual beings. Not to mention wondering souls. I have read that hoodu and voodu entities can be aggressive. Try researching the works of E A Koetting, he has experiences and writes about them. Just a thought, I hope it helps.

[believer]

Originally Posted by amjollner

Almost anything is possible. There are millions and millions of spiritual beings. Not to mention wondering souls. I have read that hoodu and voodu entities can be aggressive. Try researching the works of E A Koetting, he has experiences and writes about them. Just a thought, I hope it helps.

indeed. thank you

[believer]

Coincidentally, in messing up badly, I learned the identity of the demon from my first contact. He is a non goetic demon who I know as seroth. He is the lord of self sacrifice and is identified with the hanged man In the tarot. I made contact by expressing a dire need to rectify previous magical acts I had committed against someone I care about a lot. I was taught a spell in which 2 identical stones are spelled to be connected to me and her, hers having absorbative properties and mine having transmissive properties. The basic premise being hers will suck the negative energy and subsequent depression and placing into myself. It seems to be working as she is feeling better and I feel like ultra poop