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[believer]

a few months ago, i was visited by something. a clear voice spoke to me and told me of its power and it showed me visions of what it could give me if i followed it. i wasnt ready to accept anything until i learned more so i asked if it could make a contract that could be used at a later time. it agreed. i look over to the nearest object, a cigarette and it told me somewhat forcefully to mark it. i pick it up almost in a trance-like state and bend it into an odd way without it breaking (shape was like like -/\/\/-. sort of) after which the voice left and ive never heard from again. i was quite shaken and was out of it for most of the day, as im not used to spiritual experiences of any kind. i called some friends who are more spiritually inclined and they said it sounded like a demonic contact. ive been researching demonolatry lately and ive been wondering how to identify a particular demon and how to make contact myself. , save for those few friends, until now i have not told anyone. on various occasions i have seen unusual symbols, i.e shadows making patterns. i have copied 2 down. i want to believe that something is trying to help me and not have all this be some bullshit

[ceewayne]

Did he/she/it give you a name to call it by?

[believer]

no. just what it could do. i have no idea how to make contact partly because of that.

[nytek]

Originally Posted by believer

no. just what it could do. i have no idea how to make contact partly because of that.

Lon Milo DuQuette has a book "Low Magick", which tells his story of how he contacted and bound a haunting demonic entity to banish it from a school. Apply similar lines of reasoning or find someone to help you therewith.

[believer]

i have no real way to get the book ive looked through the 72 goetic demons and nothing quite fits.

[believer]

i suppose i could contact one that could tell me the answer. http://zalbarath666.wordpress.com/sa...ns-invocation/ does this link sound correct?

[эрик]

Do you still have the cigarette?

[believer]

no i smoked it to invoke the contract ha. not much happened the following week save for some intense hallucinations (seeing people around me when i was alone). then a bunch of crazy shit that has drastically altered my life. pretty much within 2 weeks of smoking it, i was admitted to a psyche ward, then a rehab facility, and i am currently in a halfway house in MD. as bad as that would seem, my life is far better than it was previously. also is that uzu for your profile pic?

[Barrackubus]

Originally Posted by believer

a few months ago, i was visited by something. a clear voice spoke to me and told me of its power and it showed me visions of what it could give me if i followed it. i wasnt ready to accept anything until i learned more so i asked if it could make a contract that could be used at a later time. it agreed. i look over to the nearest object, a cigarette and it told me somewhat forcefully to mark it. i pick it up almost in a trance-like state and bend it into an odd way without it breaking (shape was like like -/\/\/-. sort of) after which the voice left and ive never heard from again. i was quite shaken and was out of it for most of the day, as im not used to spiritual experiences of any kind. i called some friends who are more spiritually inclined and they said it sounded like a demonic contact. ive been researching demonolatry lately and ive been wondering how to identify a particular demon and how to make contact myself. , save for those few friends, until now i have not told anyone. on various occasions i have seen unusual symbols, i.e shadows making patterns. i have copied 2 down. i want to believe that something is trying to help me and not have all this be some bullshit

Sounds like a few too many hollywood movies.....
I have never encountered any entity that requires a contractural obligation.
They certainly wouldn't require you to follow them.
And they wouldn't dangle a carrot of power to lure you into some type of relationship.
And your friends don't know what they are talking about.....when was the last time they conversed with a demon.
What you speak of is unheard of in any magickal.circles I been hanging out in.
Maybe you should have watched 'The Craft' first, the spell where the girls hair falls out could really go.down that way!
Nonetheless good luck....

[believer]

i am asking for help not dickheads trying to be superior not a lot of conversation occurred so had to fill in some gaps. and its not so much that i have to follow anymore, its that i want to purely out of free will as i kind of owe my life at this point. though you may give it, i do not need your opinion to believe that what happened to me was true or not. so if you are just going to be a negative nancy, and try to turn a willing mind away from what i am now finding to be a powerful spiritual experience, then i would appreciate it if you no longer posted in this thread. otherwise, how about instead of unneccesary and hurtful criticism, you post something that is actually helpful?

on the otherhand, this could be the sign i was asking for. i performed a summoning of Aini and i was told that whatever contacted me was not of the goetia and pretty much a mystery as far as identity was concerned. upon receiving the sign i said i would contact Him a second time. if this is the case, then i thank you