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Originally Posted by Izabael DaJinn

Consider yourself blessed then

I always wish I could "get out" more often in dreams than I do....

I do consider myself blessed in a limited sense. I haven't figured out how to purposely induce them from dreams either unless I see something that triggers me into projecting. There are various methods to do this, and none of them have worked save one. I've tried. The problem isn't with the method. The problem is feeling safe entirely letting go of my physical consciousness.

Maybe you can relate. Often my subconscious has had to notice me reading about the subject for hours over days and maybe weeks and then it helps to set up situations that induce them while asleep in strings, sometimes more than one per night in such a case. That probably would work for you since it works for everyone I've ever known. Well, it "works"... you get me.

I have natural aptitude and also a nagging irrational fear, from suppressed memories no doubt, that the boogeyman is waiting right around the corner to scare me. This comes from all the hauntings I've attracted and reality defying stuff that happens around me and certain friends I'd be with. Even alone, just two days ago at 12:50am while I was studying black magick, the christmas lights that were still hanging up on the wall over here shook a little and then jumped about a foot up and smacked down a few times.

Going back, when I was around 15 I got out of body partially about twice, heard astral noise several times, made it to the door several times, and down to the fridge once before passing my hand through it. Those were good times... lol But I only had those happen by chance of laying down exhausted and deciding to get up again from a deep sleep state. I've only been able to do it from a conscious state like 2 or 3 times off the top of my head.

Looking back, AP is at least my biggest frustration up until now... I guess the only secret is persistence though, isn't it. :| Don't you want to slip out right when you want and go to the goetics or to your HGA? So many possibilities... doing rituals there would be best too. (...Damn lust for result.) Even my sigils have failed for this, which is rare to note for anything.

Maybe we should both work with Gaap? You're significantly more intimate with Goetia than myself. What do you think?