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[Leo Fultz]

A new Fool Speaks logo:
i like this message board. i particularly like the logo.
So i thought i'd play around with it.

Created with Paint Shop Pro 9's Animation Shop 3
Font: Zombified

[nytek]

I'm perhaps naively assuming given how it's your first post of this image that it's not your final draft so you won't take this as destructive criticism: Maybe it's merely the size of the font at the bottom, but I found it a bit hard to read without squinting. Also, if you would take my advice, maybe the, "Magick, Mayhem, etc", could be moved more towards center of that empty space, or to put it differently, to move it to the right of the page away from the image of The Fool? Like between the "h" in "The", and the "k" of "speaks". Lastly, is there a way to make the thing transparent to add a layer for the GKoS seal in the background? I kinda liked that thing too speaking only for myself.

Really I've found I'm just much better at overseeing production than I am enmeshing myself in the patient details of creation so it's nothing personal. Otherwise at large I do appreciate your boldness in sharing, most of all, as well as your imagination which fuels it. Good times.

[Leo Fultz]

Thanx for the critique, nytek.
i hadn't even thought about a "final" or "penultimate" (etc.) draft. i was just mucking around and came up with it. But because of your interest i may do more. That's all a Leo needs: Challenges Now you've got my juices flowing (boy, does that sound kinky, or what?)
Seriously, the font is one of those that aren't too readable under 36 pts. i had it at 48, but when i read the guidelines on attachments i minimized the image. Thus the small print.
i agree with the placement, probably more to the right side of the image. i'll play around with it.
The transparency should be no prob though. Between Paint Shop Pro, irfanview & ms paint i'll come up with something. i may even utilize Xara (these are my 5 sources for artwork -- including Animation Shop, which is/was bundled with PSP, but counted separately).
Hey, i just learned, today, how to handle the 'Erase' tool; which i used to erase the Magick & Hermeticism in order to add the Magick, Mayhem, etc. text.
Lettuce Sea what i can come up with. i should be studying (Agrippa, Nature Magic, Hoodoo, etc.), plus doing some reading (literally dozens upon dozens of books, pdf's, etc.), but i must admit i like playing with art (too bad i don't have any talent -- oh, well).

[nytek]

Glad I challenged you rather than simply discouraging you as inspiring you was my main intent. I'm curious to see what you'll come up with, for one.

Originally Posted by Leo Fultz

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I used to feel that way myself ... but then I realized I personally just don't have the patience to transfer images from my mind to paper, or the disciplined approach to the process that certain others seem to have in terms of going about doing it. It's always been much easier to guide production in others than to actually create. I guess what I'm trying to say in my own way is if you like it then don't sell yourself short, for what it's worth to hear. What you've just said is a linguistic curse in NLP, even if said loosely. Beliefs control energy flows and energy flows create reality by limiting or opening possibilities, and a lie told often enough is said to become truth even if the lie is told to the self. I hope that helps because realizations like that have helped me out a lot so I figured I'd share.

See you soon then.
Nytek