The Fool Speaks: Magick, Mayhem, Goetia, and the Occult Forums - So You Want to Be a Goetic Shaman? http://theFoolSpeaks.com/ Question and answer forum for the discussion of anything related to the Goetia (including the Pseudomonarchia Daemonum) with especial regard to using the daemons in non-traditional ways. en Fri, 10 Sep 2010 15:32:04 GMT vBulletin 60 http://thefoolspeaks.com/images/styles/BlissfullySimple/misc/rss.jpg The Fool Speaks: Magick, Mayhem, Goetia, and the Occult Forums - So You Want to Be a Goetic Shaman? http://theFoolSpeaks.com/ Asmodeus/Asmoday http://theFoolSpeaks.com/showthread.php?t=863&goto=newpost Tue, 10 Aug 2010 17:49:54 GMT So what's the deal with Asmoday and his association with Asmodeus?

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"Asmodeus, also known as Ashmadia, most likely originated from the Persian Aeshma-deva ("demon of wrath").

In the Testament of Solomon (dated 1st - 3rd centuries CE) , Solomon invokes Asmodeus to aid in the construction of the Temple. The demon appears and predicts Solomon's kingdom will one day be divided."
Ok, so far so good, right? It's not hard to see how the spellings are similar to Asmoday in the Goetia and his description is thus:

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"The Thirty-second Spirit is Asmoday, or Asmodai. He is a Great King, Strong, and Powerful. He appeareth with Three Heads, whereof the first is like a Bull, the second like a Man, and the third like a Ram; he hath also the tail of a Serpent, and from his mouth issue Flames of Fire. His Feet are webbed like those of a Goose. He sitteth upon an Infernal Dragon, and beareth in his hand a Lance with a Banner. He is first and choicest under the Power of AMAYMON, he goeth before all other. When the Exorcist hath a mind to call him, let it be abroad, and let him stand on his feet all the time of action, with his Cap or Headdress off; for if it be on, AMAYMON will deceive him and call all his actions to be bewrayed. But as soon as the Exorcist seeth Asmoday in the shape aforesaid, he shall call him by his Name, saying: "Art thou Asmoday?" and he will not deny it, and by-and-by he will bow down unto the ground. He giveth the Ring of Virtues; he teacheth the Arts of Arithmetic, Astronomy, Geometry, and all handicrafts absolutely. He giveth true and full answers unto thy demands. He maketh one Invincible. He showeth the place where Treasures lie, and guardeth it. He, amongst the Legions of AMAYMON governeth 72 Legions of Spirits Inferior. His Seal is this which thou must wear as a Lamen upon thy breast, etc."
OK, Great. This is how I know him and use him and it aligns fairly well. However, I have noticed recently that some magicians use Asomday as a demon for sex/love spells. Why? There is this:

"In Binsfeld's classification of demons, each one of these princes represents one of the seven deadly sins (Pride, Lust, Envy, Sloth, Greed, Gluttony, and Wrath). Asmodeus is the demon of lust and is therefore responsible for twisting people's sexual desires. "

...but other than that I can see no correlation for it. The only common occurrence of this usage seems to come from Demonic and Sexual Magic by Carl Nagel, a book I'm not too familiar with. Why does he associate Asmoday with a powerful sex magic spell? My experience has been Asmoday, as a king is somewhat unconcerned with such things. Anyone familiar with this book and can elucidate?

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